Benefactor Phil Davis Posted September 7, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 7, 2022 Fun game. I know it's early days, but I wonder if four days per letter is too long? This is the Internet, where lifetimes are measured in minutes! Seriously, I think two days might be enough. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted September 7, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 7, 2022 Plus, the letter A needs another chance. It only got about five minutes! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 Bee for B Lydia, Hierokaisareia Pseudo-autonomous issue 2nd century Obv: Bee within wreath Rev.: ΙЄΡΟΚΑΙСΑΡЄΩΝ, Stag standing left. AE, 4.00g, 18mm Ref.: RPC III 1868 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 Some lovely coins posted while I was sleeping. Thanks everyone. Also a good sugestion or two. For Today, Wednesday, please post with A or B connotations. Tomorrow, Thusday, will be C for two days, then Saturday will begin D and the alphabet will progress every two days. Thank you @Phil Davis and @DonnaML for your sensible alterations on how to keep this thread interesting and moving smoothly. Any other ideas and comments are always welcome. The variety of examples already shown, the footnotes and the snippets of historical text are fascinating for me. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, expat said: For Today, Wednesday, please post with A or B Double A: Attica, Athens Attica. Athens Circa 322/17-307 BC Eleusinian festival coinage Obv.: Triptolemos, holding grain ears, seated left in winged chariot drawn by two snakes Rev.: AΘE, Piglet standing right on mystic staff, Plemochoe in exergue Æ 15.5mm, 3.31g Ref.: Kroll 40; SNG Copenhagen 419 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, shanxi said: Double A: Attica, Athens Attica. Athens Circa 322/17-307 BC Eleusinian festival coinage Obv.: Triptolemos, holding grain ears, seated left in winged chariot drawn by two snakes Rev.: AΘE, Piglet standing right on mystic staff, Plemochoe in exergue Æ 15.5mm, 3.31g Ref.: Kroll 40; SNG Copenhagen 419 Never seen a snake drawn chariot before. Thanks for playing along with the format change to this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 A = Ananta deva B = Bhimagupta Ananta deva 1028-1076 AD (1st Lohara dynasty) Copper Kaserah or Punchshi 18mm (5.92gr) Obverse- Goddess Ardochsho/Lakshmi seated Reverse- King facing Bhimagupta 974/5-980 AD (Utpala dynasty) Copper Kaserah or Punchshi 18mm (5.55gr) Obverse- Goddess Ardochsho/Lakshmi seated facing in half lotus position, with Nagari legend 'Bhi' to left 'ma Gu' to right Reverse- King standing facing and sacrificing at altar holding trident in left hand, with Nagari legend 'pta Deva' bottom right 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted September 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, shanxi said: Double A: Attica, Athens Attica. Athens Circa 322/17-307 BC Eleusinian festival coinage Obv.: Triptolemos, holding grain ears, seated left in winged chariot drawn by two snakes Rev.: AΘE, Piglet standing right on mystic staff, Plemochoe in exergue Æ 15.5mm, 3.31g Ref.: Kroll 40; SNG Copenhagen 419 Like these a lot. The ladies had a time to themselves Thesmophoria, went mad and got drugged up and liked killing pigs. Not a place for blokes...no not even Clodius Pulcher at another all women do but Roman!. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, DonnaML said: Plus, the letter A needs another chance. It only got about five minutes! Yes sorry. Before the rules were updated, I thought we were running through the alphabet each time 😬 And A is a great letter for Saxon coins...Æthelred II the Unready First Reign Helmet Type Penny, 1003-1009London. Silver, 1.46g. Helmeted, armoured bust of Æthelred right; +Æ Ð ELRÆD REX ΛNGL. Long voided cross with tri-crescent terminals, central lozenge with beaded finials, pellet at centre; +EADPOLD M.Ω.D LUND (Eadwold moneyer of London) (S 1152). Ex Mack. Edited September 7, 2022 by John Conduitt 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, John Conduitt said: Yes sorry. Before the rules were updated, I thought we were running through the alphabet each time 😬 And A is a great letter for Saxon coins...Æthelred II the Unready First Reign Helmet Type Penny, 1003-1009London. Silver, 1.46g. Helmeted, armoured bust of Æthelred right; +Æ Ð ELRÆD REX ΛNGL. Long voided cross with tri-crescent terminals, central lozenge with beaded finials, pellet at centre; +EADPOLD M.Ω.D LUND (Eadwold moneyer of London) (S 1152). Ex Mack. It's all good, as long as everyone is enjoying it. Wonderful patina on that Aethelred. Lived in Bury St Edmunds for 30 years, surrounded by Saxon history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, expat said: Lived in Bury St Edmunds for 30 years, surrounded by Saxon history Beautiful place and plenty of history. It's a pity there weren't more coins at Sutton Hoo 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, John Conduitt said: Beautiful place and plenty of history. It's a pity there weren't more coins at Sutton Hoo 😉 I seem to remember from friends who lived in Woodbridge that it is assumed that the burial boat was for Raedwald and that 30+ gold coins were found in a purse among the other treasures. These all had different mintmarks and are thought to be a personal collection of his. When I left to live in Spain in 2004 they were still excavating the surrounding areas. Edited September 7, 2022 by expat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 what about an A + B coin Athena on the obverse Bulls on the reverse Mysia, Pergamon AE17, 310-282 BC Obv.: Helmeted and laureate head of Athena left Rev.: ΠΕΡΓΑ, Confronted bull heads. AE, 4.01g, 16.8mm Ref.: SNG France 1577 ff. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, shanxi said: what about an A + B coin Athena on the obverse Bulls on the reverse Mysia, Pergamon AE17, 310-282 BC Obv.: Helmeted and laureate head of Athena left Rev.: ΠΕΡΓΑ, Confronted bull heads. AE, 4.01g, 16.8mm Ref.: SNG France 1577 ff. Love that green patina 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 Anne Sixpence, 1703Tower. Silver, 21mm, 3.01g. Draped bust left, in fillet; ANNA DEI GRATIA; VIGO below bust. Crowned cruciform shields for England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland; MAG BR.FRA ET.HIB REG (S 3590). 'VIGO' indicates this coin was struck from silver captured at Vigo Bay during the War of the Spanish Succession. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordianAppreciator101 Posted September 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 7, 2022 13 hours ago, TuckHard said: B for Bangka Mining Gongsi of BangkaCirca 1710 to 1816 ADIssued anonymously by the Chinese tin mining Gongsi community located in Layang (Lazang) in Songai Liat, Bangka IslandTin cash | 2.74 grams | 26mm wide Obv: Quasi floral pattern above and below, set of interlocked rings left and rightRev: Shun Ji (right-left)Ref: Hartill GCC#3.268 Ooh, I studied the Bangka and Kalimantan Kongsis (Mostly the Lanfang Republic) a while back, didn't know they actually minted coins! How do you know which community it belongs to? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuckHard Posted September 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, GordianAppreciator101 said: Ooh, I studied the Bangka and Kalimantan Kongsis (Mostly the Lanfang Republic) a while back, didn't know they actually minted coins! How do you know which community it belongs to? Neat! Yes the Chinese mining communities which organized under local governments called Kongsi's minted coins in both Bangka and Borneo (West Kalimantan). In fact, their coins are probably the most notable or attainable artifacts known from these groups. There are a few works on these, an article by T. D. Yih and J. de Kreek, a chapter in Hartill's book A Guide to Cash Coins, and then there is also a more updated and comprehensive book by Puji Harsono. I don't have Harsono's book yet so have mostly relied on information in Hartill's book for the information. I am not sure where he sourced the information but most of the Borneo coins are attributed to issuer while some of the Bangka coins are anonymous or unidentified to date. Luckily my example is known. B for Borneo 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 Bohemond III Denier, 1163-1188Antioch. Silver, 18mm, 0.85g. Helmeted and mailed head left; + BOAИVHDVS, helmeted and mailed head left; crescent before, star behind. Cross pattée, crescent in second quarter; + AИTI:OCHIA (Metcalf 378). 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 I will add an A to the list Antoninus 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 There are a lot of As 🤣Alexander the Great Unit, 336-323BCMacedon. Bronze, 17.8mm, 6.00g. Head of Herakles to right, wearing lion skin. Club above bow inside bowcase; AΛEΞANΔΡOΥ (SNG Copenhagen 1059). 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Ares, another A Metropolis Asia Minor, Ionia AE 15 1st century B.C, roman rule Obv.: Helmeted head of Ares right Rev.: Thunderbolt, monogram of Metropolis above, ΔΙΟΓΕΝΗΣ (magistrate) below. Ref.: SNG Tübingen 2976, SNG Cop. 904 Edited September 7, 2022 by shanxi 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 B.... Bhuvanaika Bahu I AD 1273-1284 Seated king, SRI BHU VA NI KA BA HU in Brahmi in two vertical lines in the left field / King standing, small altar in the left field, various dots and decorations in fields. Mitchiner NIS 850-852. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted September 7, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 7, 2022 I am going to post some A's, without turning to any of Apollo, Alexander the Great, or Augustus! Perhaps I'll save them for the next turn of the alphabet wheel if and when we get there. Athena, on a Corinth stater: An Antiochos VIII Epiphanes (Grypon) Tetradrachm from the Seleucid Empire in Syria: Roman Republic, C. Antestius, AR Denarius 146 BCE. Obv. Head of Roma right wearing winged helmet with peaked visor (ornamented with griffin’s head?), pearl necklace, and earring of pellets in form of bunch of grapes, C • ANTESTI upwards behind [partially off flan, ANTE ligate], X [mark of value, 10 asses]* beneath chin / Rev. Dioscuri holding spears, on horseback galloping right; puppy running right below horses’ hooves, with both forefeet raised; in exergue, ROMA; minor flan flaws on reverse. Crawford 219/1e, RSC I Antestia 1, BMCRR I 859, Sear RCV I 95/1 (ill.), Sydenham 411. 19 mm.. 3.76 g., 3 h. Ex CNG Auction 378, July 13, 2016, Lot 408; ex. RBW [Richard B. Witschonke] Collection; ex BCD Collection [see old coin ticket], purchased by RBW from BCD March 1985; ex. ASW [Alan S. Walker, currently Dir. of Nomos AG]. [Footnotes omitted.] Roman Republic, M. Aurelius Cota [Cotta], AR Denarius 139 BCE. Obv. Head of Roma right, wearing winged helmet ornamented with stylized representation of gryphon’s head, earring with three pellets, and necklace of pendants; hair arranged in three symmetrical locks; to right below chin, COTA; behind, mark of value X [after re-tariffing, so = 16 asses] / Rev. Hercules in biga of centaurs right, holding reins in left hand and club in right hand; centaurs each carry branch in left hand; below, M•AVRELI (AVR ligate); in exergue, ROMA. 19 mm., 3.78 g. “Removed from a ring mount; otherwise very fine.” Crawford 229/1b; BMCRR I 916-917 (& Vol. III Pl. xxvi. 2); RBW Collection 959 (ill. p. 201); RSC I Aurelia 16; Sear RCV 1 106. Purchased from Dix Noonan Webb Auction 253, 13 April 2022, Lot 1240; ex. Spink Numismatic Circular May 1984, No. 2625 at p. 125 (ill. p. 137). Roman Republic, Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus, AR Denarius Rome 128 BCE [Crawford], 131 BCE [Mattingly], or after 122 BCE [BMCRR]. Obv. Head of Roma right, wearing winged helmet and single-drop earring, stalk of grain [Br. Corn] upright behind, monogram (*) for value (XVI asses) in right field beneath chin / Rev. Victory driving galloping biga right, holding reins in left hand and whip in right; below, man with tall conical cap holding spear right, fighting lion (Crawford) or hound (BMCRR, Sydenham, Babelon) left; above, ROMA; in exergue, CN•DOM. Crawford 261/1, RSC I [Babelon] Domitia 14, BMCRR 1025, Sear RCV I 137 (ill.), RBW Collection 1056, Sydenham 514. 18 mm., 3.85 g., 3 h. [Footnote omitted.] Roman Republic, Manius Acilius Glabrio, AR Denarius, 50 BCE (Harlan and BMCRR) or 49 BCE (Crawford), Rome Mint. Obv. Laureate head of Salus right, wearing necklace and earring, with hair collected behind in knot ornamented with jewels, SALVTIS upwards behind head / Rev. Valetudo [an alternate manifestation of Salus]* [Harlan says portrayal is of a statue of Valetudo] standing left, holding snake with right hand and resting left arm on column, MN•ACILIVS [downwards on right] III•VIR•VALETV [upwards on left] [MN and TV monogrammed]. RSC I Acilia 8, Crawford 442/1a, Sydenham 922, Sear RCV I 412 (ill.), Harlan, RRM II Ch. 30 at pp. 229-238, BMCRR Rome 3945. 17.5 mm., 3.98 g. [Footnote omitted.] Roman Republic/Imperatorial Period, P. Accoleius Lariscolus, AR Denarius, Sep-Dec. 43 BCE, Rome Mint. Obv. Draped bust of Diana Nemorensis right, head closely bound with fillet, and hair arranged in close locks above her forehead; behind, P • ACCOLEIVS upwards; before, LARISCOLVS downwards / Rev. Triple cult statue of Diana Nemorensis (Diana-Hecate-Selene) facing, supporting on their hands and shoulders a beam, above which are five cypress trees, the figure on left (Diana) holding bow, that on right (Selene?) holding poppy or lily, with Hecate in the center. Crawford 486/1, RSC I Accoleia 1 (ill. p. 9), BMCRR I 4211, Sear CRI 172 at p. 109 [David Sear, The History and Coinage of the Roman Imperators 49-27 BC (1998)], Sear RCV I 484 (ill. p. 161), RBW Collection 1701 (ill. p. 363). 19 mm., 3.32 g., 10 hr. Purchased May 2022; ex Classical Numismatic Group [CNG] Electronic Auction 491, 5 May 2021, Lot 349 (from the Lampasas Collection); ex CNG Electronic Auction 409, 8 Nov. 2017, Lot 535; ex CNG Sale 76/2, 12 Sep. 2007, Lot 3242 (from John A. Seeger Collection). [Footnote omitted.] And finally for the A's, Queen Anne's official Coronation Medal, which includes a depiction of Athena: England, Anne, Official AE Coronation Medal, 1702, by John Croker. Obv. Bust left, draped. ANNA D:G: MAG BR: FR: ET. HIB: REGINA. / Rev. Pallas Athena, standing right, hurls thunderbolt at two-headed monster [= “domestic faction” or France & Jacobites and/or Spain?]* wielding club, VICEM GERIT. ILLA . TONANTIS.; in exergue, INAVGVRAT XXIII AP MDCCII. 34 mm. Eimer 390 & Pl. 48; MI ii, p. 228/4 & Pl. cxv, no. 4; Wollaston p. 8, no. x & ill. 10. Purchased from Hedley Betts, Jan. 2020. *See https://stuarts.exeter.ac.uk/isaac-newton-and-queen-annes-coronation-medal/: “The reverse depicts Anne as Pallas Athene, striking down a double-headed monster. Recent scholarly consensus has been that the monster is a Hydra representing domestic faction. But [the Master of the Mint, Isaac] Newton, in his own notes on the design, describes it as a symbol of ‘any Enemy with which Her Majesty hath or may have War’. In other words, the monster presents the double threat posed by Louis XIV and James Francis Edward Stuart, the Old Pretender. The motto looks back to William and Mary. By describing Anne as a ‘Thunderer’, Newton explains that he was alluding to the coronation medal of 1689, which likewise portrayed William as a thundering Jupiter. In a sentence, Newton explains that the coronation medal ‘signifies that her Majesty continues the scene of the last reign’.” And here are two B's, Bacchus and Balbinus: Roman Republic/Imperatorial Period, C. Vibius Varus, AR Denarius, 42 BCE, Rome Mint. Obv. Head of Bacchus (or Liber)* right, wearing earring and wreath of ivy and grapes / Rev. Spotted panther [leopard]** springing left towards garlanded altar on top of which lies a bearded mask of Silenus or Pan,*** and against which leans a thyrsus with fillet (ribbon); C • VIBIVS in exergue, VARVS upwards to right. Crawford 494/36, RSC I Vibia 24, Sear RCV I 496, Sear Roman Imperators 192 (ill. p. 116), Sydenham 1138, BMCRR 4295. 17 mm., 3.60 g. Purchased from Edward J. Waddell, Ltd., Nov. 2020; ex Numismatica Ars Classica NAC AG, Auction 83, May 20, 2015, Lot 83; ex Frank Sternberg Auction 17, Zurich, May 1986, Lot 519. [Footnotes omitted.] Balbinus AR Denarius, April-June 238 AD, Rome mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, IMP C D CAEL BALBINVS AVG / Rev. Bearded Genius of the Senate, togate, standing front, head left, holding olive branch in extended right hand, and short transverse scepter in left hand, PM TRP COS II PP. RIC IV-2 5, RSC III 20, Sear RCV III 8489 (ill.). 20 mm., 2.65 g. (Purchased from Kirk Davis April 2020; ex: Kirk Davis, Cat # 74, Fall 2019, Lot 83). 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Di Nomos Posted September 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) B for Bes. Bit late to the party sorry. This coin has a portrait of Bes on the reverse. He was an Egyptian deity of childbirth I believe, amongst other things. Philistia, Gaza. Drachm, c. 450 - 333 BC Bes has a pretty serious cut through his head, which I've noticed most of this type have. A rare and interesting little coin. Edited September 9, 2022 by Di Nomos 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted September 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 Posting for letter A - ANONYMOUS - RR denarius with helmeted Roma / Dioscurri reverse. And just in case "anonymous" is cheating... RR denarius of Albinus... 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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