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if so i had a couple of question hopefully you can answer. CNG lists a number of elagabalus antioch tets as “Emesan Issues” seemingly referencing prieur SELEUCIS and PIERIA, Antioch. Elagabalus. AD 218-222. AR Tetradrachm (25.5mm, 15.67 g, 6h). “Emesan Issues”. Struck AD 219. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right / Eagle standing right, wings spread, holding wreath in beak; Δ–Є flanking head, star between legs. Prieur –; McAlee –. Toned, some light porosity, a few spots of verdigris. VF. Extremely rare, Prieur did not own this example when he published his book, and none in CoinArchives. also ive seen listings like https://www.ma-shops.com/an/item.php?id=910 that list emesa and antioch mints in the description so my questions are - 1. were "Emesan Issues" minted in emesa? 2. if so what is the tell that it is an emesan issue? i looked at a number of them on CNG research and couldn't tell what differentiates them from the standard antioch ones. thanks!
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beluga started following commodus's most interesting bronze medallion
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in celebration of the new year of 187 A.D. commodus had this medallion struck . Commodus Æ Medallion. Rome, AD 186-187. M COMMODVS ANTONINVS PIVS FELIX AVG BRIT, laureate and cuirassed bust right / P M TR P XII IMP VIII, Tellus reclining left, left arm resting on basket of fruit and cradling long vine branch from which hangs grapes above, her right hand placed on star-studded globe, around which are the figures of the Four Seasons; TELLVS STABIL COS V P P in two lines in exergue. but more interestingly he also had another version with atleast two dies struck showing him as the god janus commodus's later coins as hercules are usually noted as the first propaganda of a roman emperor as a living god but these medallions predate that coinage by 4 or 5 years. we know that by 187 A.D. he had already survived multiple assassination attempts and was the first emperor to be "born in purple" in the empires 200 year history, add in his young age and it's not surprising that he would have viewed himself as such. but having two versions begs some interesting questions, was the janus versions perhaps made only for close allies? was this his way of testing the waters in terms of how people would react to his belief in his divinity? if so they must have had a poor reception as he didn't produce another example until going completely of the rails in 192 anyone have any theories? on a related note incase anyone knowledgeable about the bronze medallions reads this, do we have any estimate about how many medallions would have been produced from a single die? i imagine it must be fairly low given these were prestige pieces, thanks!
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vitellius spent most of his short reign eating everything he could get a hold of, including livers of pike, the brains of pheasants and peacocks, the tongues of flamingoes and the milt of lampreys in the famous dish "the shield of minerva" here are a couple of ancient sources on him "being besides a man of an appetite that was not only boundless, but also regardless of time or decency, he could never refrain, even when he sacrificing or making a journey, from snatching bits of meat and cakes amid the altars, almost from the very fire, and devouring them on the spot; and in the cookshops along the road, viands smoking hot or even those left over from the day before and partly consumed" - suetonius "he was insatiate in gorging himself, and was constantly vomiting up what he ate, being nourished by the mere passage of the food" - cassius dio dio goes on to claim he expended 900,000,000 sesterces on dinners during his reign. marcus aurelius, famously stoic, always seemed to struggle with the luxury he had access to from being born into a wealthy family. in his early years he was known to wear simple clothing and sleep on the ground and later while emperor he chose to sell off imperial finery to raise needed funds instead of raising taxes. a surviving letter from fronto has his former teacher begging him to take advantage of his leisure time knowing he will spend his vacation working. so whats the connection? Vitellius 69 AD. AR Denarius, Rome mint. Obv. A VITELLIVS GERMA[N IMP] TR P. Laureate head right. Rev. LIBERI IMP G[ERMAN]. Busts of Vitellius'son Vitellius Germanicus and daughter Vitellia. RIC I (2nd ed.) 101. AR. 3.17 g. 19.00 mm. we know rupilia faustina was marcus aurelius' grandmother and that her father was the consul libo rupilius frugi. frugi was married to salonia matidia, the niece of the emperor trajan, but that marriage is too late for salonia to be faustina's mother. "in 70, the new emperor vespasian took vitellia under his wing, provided her with a dowry, a house and an unnamed husband. some historians such as settipani and strachan have proposed that he was libo rupilius frugi and that she was the mother of his daughter rupilia faustina, thus explaining the use of the nomen galeria among female members of the nerva-antonine dynasty." - wikipedia i personally don't have the expertise to know how likely this is but i found the possibility so fascinating that i had to get the coin with marcus' potential great great grandpa and great grandma interestingly in one of fronto's letters to marcus he says - "After Augustus a few relics only, withered already and decaying, were left over for the notorious Tiberius. But his successors without a break to Vespasian were all of such a kind as to make us no less ashamed of their speaking than disgusted with their characters and sorry for their acts." - kinda rude to insult a man's great great grandpappy!
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apologies for the delay, just realized my original reply wasn't approved by the moderator so giving it another go sol - RIC IV Caracalla 264B aurora preparing sol's chariot - RRC 453/1 mercury - RIC IV Trajan Decius 142 venus - RIC III Commodus 286A terra with the four seasons - RIC IV Septimius Severus 549 luna - RIC IV Caracalla 379A caesar's comet - RIC I (second edition) Augustus 37B mars - RIC IV Trebonianus Gallus 84 jupiter - RIC IV Severus Alexander 5c saturn - RIC V Valerian 210 urania muse of astronomy - RRC 410/8 neptune - RIC V Postumus 76 pluto - RIC IV Caracalla 261A obviously no roman coins for the greek uranus and unsure if this is actually true but the wiki for urania claims - The planet Uranus, though mostly named after the Greek god personifying the sky, is also indirectly named after Urania apologies for the poor photo quality, still just using a phone
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sol - RIC IV Caracalla 264B aurora preparing sol's chariot - RRC 453/1 mercury - RIC IV Trajan Decius 142 venus - RIC III Commodus 286A terra with the four seasons - RIC IV Septimius Severus 549 luna - RIC IV Caracalla 379A caesar's comet - RIC I (second edition) Augustus 37B mars - RIC IV Trebonianus Gallus 84 jupiter - RIC IV Severus Alexander 5c saturn - RIC V Valerian 210 urania muse of astronomy - RRC 410/8 neptune - RIC V Postumus 76 pluto - RIC IV Caracalla 261A obviously no roman coins for the greek uranus and unsure if this is actually true but the wiki for urania claims - The planet Uranus, though mostly named after the Greek god personifying the sky, is also indirectly named after Urania apologies for the bad photos, still just using a phone
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finished the set this year, oddly enough mars(one of the most common) was the last acquired. some probably have most of the set without having considered it. i imagine the majority of people on here will be able to interpret it easily but i'll let the others speculate for a bit. i will reply later with the RIC info on the coins used
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Faustina Friday – The Currus Elephantorum
beluga replied to Roman Collector's topic in Faustina Friday
i was following that coin but decided not to at last minute to save for a different coin, but it worked out because i recently won this one for opening bid as well. it looks like the second time her statue got paraded they gave the cart an upgrade although unfortunately it looks like i might have to look into how to treat bronze disease- 11 replies
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