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Get well soon! I was a teacher in England until I retired in 2023 so not surprising I caught it in March 2020 and then again in December 2022. Pretty horrible virus. 

There were 24 folles from the Carthage mint in the Rauceby Hoard. I always like to imagine how these ended up in the east of England, such a long way from Carthage in Roman times. 

6 coins of Diocletian, 4 of Maximian, 7 of Constantius and 7 of Galerius. Six Africa reverses and the rest were all Salvis.

13 hours ago, John Conduitt said:

Still, a better result than if they’d tried to hide it and sell them on the black market.

Yes, they they had stolen them and sold them to dealer they would be looking at a lengthy prison sentence. Proceeds of crime act would chase them for £30k 🤣

Reading the article made me smile. Apparently the landowner thinks he will loan the coins to the museum.  Sadly it's most unlikely that he will ever get his hands on them ever again.  The coins are already at the museum in Cardiff. 

As the landowner, he is only entitled to a reward equivalent to half of whatever the 'Treasure Valuation Committee' decide on their value. The committee don't have specific expertise in valuation but rely on an expert valuation by a person chosen by the UK Government.  In the case of the Anglesey Hoard no account will be made of their special/unique location etc, it will be based entirely on auction prices realised for similar coins with or without provenance.  I would expect the landowner to see a cheque of about £3000 in a couple of years.  The coins will belong the the Museum of Wales and hopefully will be on display for all to see.

My guess is

Constans II, AE follis, Constantinople

This 50p came out of the ground in a playing field outside a Girl Guide Hut. Under 50 years old but already showing serious signs of corrosion.  I frequently find Roman coins of similar size in similar soil that come out perfectly legible.  I can't see this 50p lasting 2000 years in the soil.

I have always been interested in family history and traced back many many generations on both my parents side. They all came from the north west of the Isle of Anglesey. An island in Wales known for it's last stand against Suetonius Paulinus in AD 60-61. It was a centre for the Celtic Druids and an important source of copper in during the Roman occupation. Some 18 round ingots of copper, eight with Roman stamps, have been found on the island, two on Parys Mountain, a huge open cast mine.  When copper coins were short in the early 1800s copper from Parys Mountain were used to make the huge 'Druid ' Penny tokens and Two pence tokens.  I have several.

When I took my DNA test I was not surprised to see the results -98% Welsh 2% Norwegian. The Vikings did raid the north coast of Anglesey.  I'm rather happy that I don't have any Anglo-Saxon or Norman blood in me - especially when Wales are playing rugby in the 6 Nations Competition!

A big plus to finding a huge hoard of tetrarchic folles is that I get to study a large number of them in my own home. I also get to keep my favourites. These eight were all cleaned and preserved by me. Chosen for aesthetic merit, mint location and reverse rather than rarity.

All I would like is a silver denarius of Caurasius

On 2/1/2023 at 7:17 AM, Severus Alexander said:

Sorry for the slow reply, @John Conduitt, I meant to look into this further but haven't had an opportunity.  As @SteveJBrinkman intimated, the LON coins are known for all four tetrarchs, bare busts only, and seem to be stylistically closely related to the bare bust no-mintmark coins. Cloke & Toone acknowledge the presence of both Carausian and continental mint workers present in the London mint, and purport to trace the two engraving styles through the early issues. As I recall they even suggest that particular mint workers may have been responsible for particular dies.

As for why the LON mark appeared and then disappeared, I think their main thought was this: Carausius brought in a London mark to distinguish those coins from the C-mint. The LON mark was initiated under the tetrarchs as a matter of course (coins need mint marks, right?), but when it was realized there was no need to distinguish the coins from the now defunct C-mint, they stopped bothering with a mint mark. (Also, the coins weren't expected to circulate outside Britain much, I suppose.)

Anyway, it's all in LMCC!  I highly recommend it, if you can get ahold of a copy.

I am lucky enough to have a LON mark on a Constantius. RIC 4a.  Rauceby Hoard.

Here is a London coin of Diocletian. RIC 1a AD 296

And as if proud to have finally become an Augustus between 305 and 306AD here is a great bust of Constantius, father of Constantine the Great.  2nd Tetrarchy. Lugdunum mint. RIC VI 187a I think.

This Diocletian is Trier mint RIC VI 291b.  

Here is a Galerius as Caesar. Rome Mint RIC VI 104b I believe.  I really like the SACRA MON coins. 

Piece work sucks! I used to mark college exam papers and some could take hours to mark so I'd only earn peanuts.

I don't think N&N London are the same auction house as Naville Numismatics.

I copy and paste the link into my excel spreadsheet along with my own research etc. I can then watch multiple coins on different auctions from one place

17 minutes ago, Limes said:

No, I did not join the party. Leu seems to attract bidders with deep pockets, maybe too deep. Although some prices realised are fair, and even some coins can be had for a friendly price, the large bulk of the prices are ridiculous if I compare them to other sold or offered items elsewhere. It seems to be going like this since covid and earlier Leu auctions were better from a buyers perspective. But I have no data to confirm this, its a mere feeling. 

Another problem for me at least, but this also goes for other auction houses, are the rising fees, shipping fees and customs fees. Latter is the case with Swiss (and Britain since brexit too) but also because buyers need.to pay customs clearance costs (?) over all packages, always, and it has become a lot stricter. 

So, all these fees eat a larger and larger.portion of my budget. So i have to chose more careful when I buy a coin from a non-EU country, and do so on fewer and fewer occasions. 

In no way is this a complaint, its.a fact and I know it comes with this hobby. Its just a bid sad though, especially the rising buyers fees. And Leu has great material to offer, so that attracts bidders of course. 

I apologize if this appears as a pointless rant, not my purpose.

I had 100 coins consigned and some of the hammered prices were eyewatering.  I had a Maximianus Trier 170b that went for £740!

If the 'eye cream' was cocaine in the container then its a neat way of smuggling. The smuggler knows the final address so could call round for their eye cream without risk perhaps.

From the Rauceby Hoard

Followed most of the auction as I had ten lots consigned. I too had some strange pauses and instant jumps to 'sold'. I thought it was my own PC.

 This coin I found recently was originally identified by PAS as Londinium RIC VII 32, a common coin but is in fact an r5 RIC VII 34.  Rather glad I didn't sell it now 🙂  A double die match to the only one illustrated in Cloke & Toone's LMCC. 

Found this in a field recently.

I use https://numismatics.org/ocre/ mostly and sixbid or coinarchives to find out prices.  Not in RIC, https://www.notinric.lechstepniewski.info/ is also very useful as a back up for coins not in the OCRE database.  My main interest is RIC VI bronzes and I have a pdf version of RIC Vol. VI.