ACCLA-Mike

Kudos to auction houses that actually remove the images of fake coins. At least they are acting in good faith in response to knowledgeable viewers. Some auction houses ignore input and those are what I think we should be more concerned about.

But an open repository of rejected coins would definitely take it one level up...

Rasiel, Thank you so much for upgrading the server! You have built a fantastic resource that I use frequently and will now use more. Very useful for hunting down coins in my own collection but also for looking at other collections that were sold off on ebay. 

Ed: This type is frequently seen with Sellwood's countermark iii - the Gondophares symbol - hence the "Eastern" epithet.

Sellwood 91.9, 18 mm, 3.28 g. Mike

I see nothing wrong in dealers buying in other dealer's auctions as long as they don't get a professional discount on the vigorish (18-25% these days) since that obviously puts them at an unfair advantage. 

Steve:

There is some overlap but there are a few more Pegasi Auctions that are not on your list that were hosted on Agora and that are still available in their archives. Agora don't have direct links from their home page so I don't how stable the URLs will be in the future but you can see the list of available auctions on the right hand side:

https://agoraauctions.com/pegasi/auction_archive

Also, they have a few archived Spartan auctions, also run by Pegasi:

https://agoraauctions.com/spartan/auction_archive

I really appreciate your work on this, I find your well-ordered links to catalogs incredibly useful.

Mike

Some of the Pegasi e-auctions were held on VAuctions.  You could try doing a search using VAuctions' "advanced search" function, with the Archived Auctions (prior to September 2022) button selected. VAuctions has their own numbering system for Auctions so searching using Pegasi's auction number (137) doesn't work. Instead, try searching with the lot number and an appropriate keyword.

On 11/30/2023 at 8:42 AM, kirispupis said:

I've been after an Arsakes I example, having lost on three previous examples, but I won't be bidding on theirs since the bid is already way past my budget. 😞

And no provenance provided. ☹️

Emperor Elagabalus is what she was. I'm happy that the Museum is provoking the public to ponder on how "history" has been written.

The Museum should update it's own record though (and maybe get a better coin). They use "they" not "she" in the record for their solitary and quite crappy Elagabalus denarius.

https://northhertsmuseum.org/north-hertfordshire-museum/collections/object-details/1882563/

Possibly. But the date is written month/day/year not/day/month year so perhaps more likely added in the USA?

FYI, Here is the link to the Fitzpatrick Museum's lists of Numismatic Auction Catalogues and Fixed Price Lists:

https://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/coins/library/salescatalogue/index.html

I love getting and seeing these old tickets! Ted Buttrey's old Fitzpatrick Museum's list of Numismatic Auction Catalogues and Fixed Price Lists includes this listing for a dealer in Düsseldorf named Kimpel operating in the 60s and early 70s. Your coin might well be from one of these lists. Perhaps the penciled in date is 9.22.67?

KIMPEL, W., Düsseldorf, Germany
Lists: {Small} have 1-43
1961: no 1, May; no 2, Dec;
1962: no 3, Apr; no 4, Nov;
1963: no 5, Mar; no 6, Jul; no 7, Oct;
1964: no 8, Jan; no 9, May; no 10, Sep;
1965: no 11, Mar; no 12, Aug/Sep; no 13;
1966: no 14, Mar/Apr; no 15, Summer; no 16, Oct/Nov;
1967: no 17, Feb/Mar; no 18, Jul; no 19, Sep; no 20, Dec;
1968: no 21, Mar; no 22, May/Jun; no 23, Aug; no 24, Dec;
1969: no 25, Mar; no 26, Jun; no 27, Sep; no 28, Dec;
1970: no 29, Mar/Apr; no 30, Jun/Jul; no 31, Oct; no 32, Dec;
1971: no 33, Mar; no 34, Jun/Jul; no 35, Sep; no 36, Dec;
1972: no 37, Mar; no 38, Jun; no 39, Sep; no 40, Dec;
1973: no 41, Apr; no 42, Sep
1974: no 43, Mar

Here are 3 examples from Bono Simonetta's collection that were published in his 1971 paper - Simonetta, B. 1971. Un interessante tesoretto di tetradrammi di Vologeses III. Rivista Italiana di Numismatica, 73: 57-62. pl. Simonetta numbers the King as Vologases III which is also the numbering re-adopted in the current Sylloge Nummorum Parthicorum series. 

Sellwood 84.62 BI Tetradrachm (26mm, 13.26g, 12h). Dated ϘΥ [ΑΠ]ΕΛΛΑ[IΟΥ] = November 490 SE = November 178 CE.

Sellwood 84.64 BI Tetradrachm (27mm, 12.09g, 1h). ϘΥ [Δ]ΥΣТ[ΡΟΥ = February 490 SE = February 179 CE.

Sellwood 84.92 BI Tetradrachm (28mm, 13.16g, 1h). ΔϘΥ ΠΕΡΙΤ[ΙΟΥ] = January 494 SE = January 183 CE.

The tetradrachms and drachms circulated in different areas with most Parthian tetradrachms being minted in Seleukeia on the Tigris.

Parthia

Phraates III (ruled about 70-57 BCE)

Ekbatana mint, chalkous 2.30 g. 14 mm, 12 o'clock.

Facing bust wearing medallion / Elephant standing R, ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΜΕΓΑΛΟΥ ΑΡΣΑΚΟΥ ΘΕΟΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ ΕΥΕΡΓΕΤΟΥ ΕΠΙΦΑΝΟΥΣ ΚΑΙ ΦΙΛΕΛΛΗΝΟΣ around.

Sellwood 35.18v (legend)

Next a lion.

Parthian Empire
Unknown king (Sellwood 1980); Sinatruces (eg. Morkholm 1980); Arsakes XVI (eg. Sunrise).
Traxiane mint.
Drachm, Silver, 3.96 g, 20 mm.
Obv: Diademed bust L
Rev: Archer seated R on a throne that (incorrectly) shows 3 legs, ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΜΕΓΑΛΟΥ ΑΡΣΑΚΟΥ ΘΕΟΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ ΕΥΕΡΓΕΤΟΥ ΤΡΑΞΙΑΝΗ around.
Ref.: Sellwood 30.22; Shore 142. Reverse die match to CNG 75 (May 23, 2007) Lot: 589.

Next: Another eastern mint coin.

Growing up in England I was always told that Elgin took the best of whatever he could get "permission" from the local Turkish rulers to take. And he did lose more than a few pieces on the way.

If you are interested in the actual history of the British Museum's "acquisition" of the marbles, I heartedly recommend starting by reading the "Report from the Select Committee of the House of Commons on the Earl of Elgin's collection of sculptured marbles" that was published in 1816 (link below). This government summary is an exemplary piece of political whitewash. Elgin didn't even have a receipt! But that was OK because the government wanted the sculptures for the British Museum. 😉

https://archive.org/details/gri_33125008272383/mode/2up?view=theater

Enjoy,

Ed, I believe that copyright for Alex Malloy's catalogs passed to his daughter on his death in 2020.

Can anyone provide pointers to sources of information on what happens to copyright for entities? Does the copyright simply expire or does it pass to a related entity (who could then make it open access)? Or does copyright remain vacuously in the ether until the given time expires? These days nonprofits include information on dissolution in their bylaws but this was not past practice. 

Congratulations Topcat7. These dichalkoi ran annually for a few years. Here is one of my Sellwood 84.145 from the next year - Seleucid Era 476 = 164/5 CE.

Could you add a "hugs" emoji or equivalent? So we can send our supportive commiserations to posters who missed bids, lost coins etc.?

Such a really cool find. Just imagine some displaced Corieltavian desperately hiding their family wealth on Mona, the Last Druid stronghold... 

INDO-PARTHIAN (1st century CE).
BI Tetradrachm of Abdagases, Ex Simonetta collection.
9.35 g. 21 mm. 9 o'clock.
Minted at Gandhara (?)
King on horseback R, raising R arm, tamgha over Ba before, corrupt Greek legend around.
Zeus Nikephoros standing L, monogram to L, stylized Greek B over Va, Maharajasa Rajadirajasa Guduvharabhrataputrasa Avadagashasa around.
Senior 231.27T. Published in: Simonetta 1953 Fig. 5 (THIS COIN); Simonetta 1957 pl. 3 coin 2 (THIS COIN); Simonetta & Widemann 1978 Fig. 1 coin 16 (THIS COIN).

Next: Another published coin.

Super coin! The earliest example I know of was in a 1981 Münz-Zentrum Köln auction that was published by Buono Simonetta in 1986 - 5 years after the definitive Sellwood 2nd edition was printed.

Sellwood only listed one type 6 bronze hence the cataloguing of the eagle type as Sellwood 6.2v. Here is my Sellwood 6.2 (from Sellwood's collection); Sunrise 244 (this coin). Note the monogram to the left of the bow case. Assar assigns it to a Mithradatkart mint but there is no theta below the joined MT seen in the later Mithradatkart mintmark. 

Mike

Great thread! Here is my example of the Sellwood 46.18 which just has the crescent behind Orodes' portrait, my Sellwood 47.17 which is the same type that Parthicus posted (apologies for the washed out image, it doesn't do the coin justice and I need to re-shoot), and my Sellwood 40.15 (Sellwood's Mithradates III from Areia) which I believe is the coin type Alvin referred to. The 40.15 is a reverse die match to the ANS and Triskeles 21 examples. Note that the 40.15 has an 8 line legend. That makes me wonder if Sellwood knew of another coin with a 7 line example? While we are fortunate that Sellwood did what he did for Parthian coinage, it's unfortunate that he described but did not designate specific examples of his types.

Here are my examples of Sellwood 52.20 (Le Rider 201) and Sellwood 52.23 (Le Rider 202). The S52.20 isn't in great shape but it was well worth the $20 it cost.

Most of the BNF examples are from the Susa excavations. The coin finds were divvied up between Paris and Tehran. Many of the BNF coins are from 4 hoards (Tresors 8, 9, 10, and 11) that were found during the excavations.  It is interesting to see that the hoard coins are in much better shape than the stray finds in keeping with hoarders typically keeping and stashing the best coins they come across. 

Sellwood 52.20; Le Rider 201. 3.4 g, 18 mm.

Sellwood 52.23; Le Rider 202. 3.47 g, 19 mm.

Here is my Sellwood 60.10. Æ 1.60 g,  12 mm, 12 h.