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Hello @Didier Attaix. I'm wary of opening an attached Word document, for security reasons.

@Amanda Here's an idea. Take a group photo, of 15 coins. Arrange the coins, in a 3x5 grid, with 3 horizontal rows, and 5 vertical columns. In other words, a grid that is wider, than it is tall. Put the coins close together, to minimize the dead space between the coins, but keep the rows and columns neat and orderly and well aligned. Try to have the "head" side of each coin facing up. Hold the camera as close to the grid of coins as possible, to minimize the dead space outside of the grid of coins. Then, flip the coins over, and take a 2nd group photo. In both group photos, try to rotate the coins, so that they are all pointing the correct way, for example the top of the head should be facing north (12 o'clock). Then, create a thread, with a title such as "ID Help : My Father's Collection : Group Photo 1 : Any Gems?". If possible, try to put similar coins in the group photo. For example, if there are 15 coins which seem to be medieval coins, then you could add that to the thread title : "ID Help : My Father's Collection : Group Photo 1 : Medieval Coins (?) : Any Gems?". In the thread, post the 2 group photos. You don't have to indicate the weight of each coin. However, it may be a good idea, to put a US dime or quarter, as 1 of the 15 coins, to give an indication of the size of the coins. Some members may frown at this, but perhaps it would allow us to quickly look at a bunch of coins, and see if there are any "gems" (valuable coins). For example, for English silver pennies, the older the penny, the more valuable it often is. English silver pennies from Richard I The Lionheart or earlier, are often more valuable. It's pretty easy for me to tell, if an English silver penny is from Richard I The Lionheart or earlier. If any "gems" are found, then maybe you could take separate photos of those individual coins, and create separate threads for them. If anyone yells at you for doing this, then just tell them, that it was @sand's crazy idea.

Yes. I see 2 "banker's marks" on the coin. To be precise, on the obverse, on Roma's jaw, there is a triangle stamped there. On the reverse, on the rear of a horse, there is an upside down "V" stamped there. Do the banker's marks add value, for a collector? I don't know. It probably depends, on where the banker's marks are, whether the banker's marks detract from the appearance of the coin, and how interesting the banker's marks are. For me, banker's marks are interesting.

It's a silver coin. Therefore, it's at least worth a little bit of money, just for it's silver content. However, it seems like, it would be worth more than that, to a coin collector. Perhaps a dealer would pay you somewhere from $10 to $20. That's just an educated guess.

Hello @Amanda. It may be an English silver penny, from the reign of Henry III. If it's Henry III, then I'm going to guess, that a Vcoins dealer would sell it for approximately $100. The condition and appearance seem to be below average, for this coin type. A dealer may pay you $50 for the coin. This is an educated guess. It's possible, that it is some other King Of England, or maybe from a different European country. Someone at Nvmis Forvms probably knows. Here is a Vcoins search, for the following keywords : "Henry iii" England https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery="Henry+iii"+England&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMints=True&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False Here is an MA-Shops search, for the following keywords : "Henry iii" England https://www.ma-shops.com/shops/search.php?searchstr="Henry+iii"+England&catid=0&submitBtn=Search&days_new=

Hello @Amanda. It looks like a medieval European silver coin, whose edges have been clipped. Often, in medieval times, people would clip the edges of silver coins, and they would keep the clippings, and melt the clippings, and sell the clippings for their silver content. This was usually considered a crime, and sometimes punished brutally, but some people did it anyway, because there were a lot of poor people in medieval times. It may be an English silver penny, perhaps for Edward I The Longshanks. Or it could be another European country. Someone at Nvmis Forvms will probably know, what it is. It looks like the obverse side, the side with the head on it, is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise in your photo. The value is probably not very high, probably close to zero, because the condition and appearance are well below average, because the face is almost worn away completely. Unless it's a rarity, but I don't know enough about the coin type, to know if it's a rarity.

Hello @Amanda. It looks like a late medieval European coin. Late medieval European coins were usually more elaborate than early medieval European coins. Late medieval European coins often showed the entire figure of a king, including the arms and legs, as your coin shows. On your coin, the king seems to be seated on a throne, which is also common for late medieval European coins. Italy? Armenia? Hungary? I don't know. Someone on Nvmis Forvms will know, probably.

Hello @Amanda. I sympathize with your efforts to identify the coins, in your deceased father's collection. I also sympathize with your efforts, to assess the value of his coins. Even though you haven't asked about the value of this particular coin, I've noticed that you have asked about the value of other coins, and there is nothing wrong with asking that. In the future, for each new thread, I recommend creating a more descriptive title for the thread. For example, for this coin, I recommend a thread title such as "Coin With Head On 1 Side, Person Above Animals On Other Side". Or something like that. Anything, to try to help people, to tell the threads apart. Regarding your coin, your coin is similar to 1 of my coins. Here are the seller photos of my coin. To give you an idea of the value, I paid $100 plus $7 shipping for my coin, in late 2020. The value of my coin, has probably increased a little bit since then, because of inflation, and because some ancient coins, especially the more valuable coins, have increased in value because of the pandemic and other factors. Also, I think I got a pretty good deal, when I bought my coin. I'm thinking, that my coin would probably sell for something like $150 nowadays. The value depends on various factors : supply, demand, historical importance, how interesting the coin is, the condition of the coin, and (very importantly) how nice the coin looks (style, strike, condition, and tone/patina). Your coin's condition and how nice it looks, seem to be lower, than my coin. Your coin is more worn than my coin. And, my coin has a nice tone on it. And, your coin has "graffito" to the right of the head, which means that someone deliberately scratched something on the coin. For your coin, the graffito looks like 3 lines, which form a shining star. Why did someone carve that? And when? Was it carved in ancient times? Or was it carved in modern times? I have no idea. Unfortunately, usually graffito, on ancient coins, decreases the value of the coin, because it usually lowers the coin's appearance, unless the graffito can be proven to be ancient and interesting. Because of the condition/wear, graffito, and overall appearance of your coin, I'm going to guess, that a dealer would sell your coin for approximately $100. However, if you were to sell your coin to a dealer, you would probably receive much less, perhaps $50, because a dealer must buy low and sell high to make a profit, and to cover the costs of advertising, and running his/her business. If you were to sell your coin on Ebay, or if you were to sell your coin here on Nvmis Forvms in "The Cabinet" area, then you may be able to get a bit more for the coin, perhaps even $100, but it may take awhile, perhaps months or years, before someone decides to buy it. Or, you could try to consign your coin to a low end auction house, such as Tiber Numismatics, in which case it may auction for $100, but it could auction for much less. That's the risk of auctioning a coin. A high end auction house, on the other hand, such as CNG, would probably not auction your coin, because it's value is relatively low, for an ancient coin. That's just my educated guess. I'm not an expert. L. Flaminius Cilo AR Denarius. 109 BC To 108 BC. Rome Mint. Sear 179. Crawford 302/1. 20 mm. 3.51 grams. Obverse Roma. Reverse Victory Driving Biga With "L FLAMINI" Below. 1 way, to get an idea of value, is to search Vcoins. Vcoins is a marketplace for ancient coins, medieval coins, and modern coins. In many ways, Vcoins is way better than Ebay, for buying ancient coins and medieval coins. Especially for new collectors. Because Vcoins monitors the coins, to minimize the number of fake coins sold. Ebay, on the other hand, doesn't care at all, about people selling fake coins, therefore there are many fakes sold on Ebay. However, there are some reputable dealers on Ebay. If I search Vcoins for the keywords "Flaminius Cilo" (without the quotation marks), I get the following search results. Here is a link to Vcoins : https://www.vcoins.com/en/Default.aspx And here is the search for "Flaminius Cilo" : https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Flaminius+Cilo&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMints=True&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False You can see, that there is a wide variation, in the prices of these coins, from 75 euros ($80) to 390 euros ($417). Note that the cheapest coin, the 75 euros ($80) coin, is "reserved", meaning that someone has promised to buy the coin, but has not yet paid for it. Why the wide variation in prices? Partly, it's because some of the coins look better, than the other coins. And partly because, some of the coins are better deals. The 75 euros ($80) coin actually looks pretty good, therefore I don't know why it's so cheap. The 129 euros ($138) coin in the upper left, doesn't look as nice as the other coins, therefore it makes sense that it would have a lower price. Another good place, to search for coins, to get an idea of value, is MA-Shops. Here is a link to MA-Shops : https://www.ma-shops.com/ If I search MA-Shops for "Flaminius Cilo" (without the quotation marks), I get the following results : Again, we see a wide range of prices. Some coins look nicer. And, some of the coins are simply a better deal. Oh well. I hope, that this is helpful to you, in your quest.

Now that I think about it some more, there are some scenarios, in which I would thank a dealer. None of the following scenarios has ever happened for me, but if 1 of these scenarios happened, then I would thank a dealer. Scenario 1 : If I screwed up, and accidentally ordered a coin. If I told the dealer right away, and if the dealer was nice about it, and canceled the order, then I would thank the dealer. Scenario 2 : If I ever wanted to return a coin, within the seller's allowed return window. If I did that, and if the dealer was nice about it, then I would thank the dealer. There may be other such scenarios.

The idea of thanking a dealer, had never occurred to me, until I read this thread. Now that the idea has occurred to me, will I thank dealers in the future? Probably not. For me, when I buy a coin, it's an equal transaction, in which money is exchanged for a coin. The dealer hasn't done me a favor, and the dealer hasn't given me anything, and I haven't done the dealer a favor, and I haven't given the dealer anything. Therefore, for me, there is no need to thank a dealer, or for a dealer to thank me. However, I'm glad that coin dealers exist. And, if a coin dealer provides fast shipping, and is friendly when handling problems, and is knowledgeable enough to avoid selling fake coins or tooled coins (although even the best dealers may occasionally make a mistake), and has interesting coins in my price range, then I tend to buy more coins from that dealer. And, I tend to say good things, about coin dealers in general, on coin forums.

I have an old desktop computer. I bought it in 2010. It used to have Windows 7 Home, I think, but I've since installed the Windows 10 Home on it. I also upgraded the RAM, from 8 gigabytes to 16 gigabytes. I've always just used the following keyboard keys. Alt + Print Screen (called "PrtScn SysRq" on my keyboard) = screen capture the selected window. Ctrl + Print Screen (called "PrtScn SysRq" on my keyboard) = screen capture the entire desktop. Then, in Microsoft Paint, which was standard software with Windows 7 and is still standard software with Windows 10 although you may have to poke around to find it, I press Ctrl + V, to paste the screen captured image. Then, in Microsoft Paint, I press Ctrl + A to select all of the captured image. Then, in Microsoft Paint, I can move the image around, to clip the top and left areas of the image. Then, in Microsoft Paint, I click outside of the image. This causes a tiny white square to appear, at the lower right corner of the image. Then, I click and drag the lower right corner of the image, where the tiny white square is, in order to clip the bottom and right areas of the image. Is this the sort of thing, about which you guys are talking? Or, do you want to do fancier things? Or, have I misunderstood this thread/discussion?

Hello @KARABANXELERO. Welcome to Nvmis Forvms. I collect US coins, as well as ancient coins, medieval coins, and world coins. I'm familiar with the 1851 Augustus Humbert $50 private gold coin. The coin in question, looks very similar to the Humbert, but obviously it's not gold. Unfortunately, that's where my knowledge ends. However, there are many knowledgeable collectors on Nvmis Forvms. Hopefully, someone will know more, about the coin. Do you know the diameter and weight of the coin? Is the coin attracted to a magnet?

@ewomack That's a nice, interesting example. It has some interesting details. And, it has an interesting, dark brown patina. I also collect Byzantines. As you said, the people who collect Byzantines, seem to be a small subset, of the people who collect ancients and/or medievals. One can simply look at the number of posts, on each of the Nvmis Forvms sub-forums, to see how few collectors seem to collect Byzantines. It's interesting, how different people, like different things. Here are the number of Nvmis Forvms posts, at this moment. Greek 6.6k Celtic 258 Roman Republic 2.1k Roman Empire 23.7k Faustina Friday 677 Byzantine 3.1k Medieval 2.1k Non-Western 773 World Coins 3.6k However, perhaps surprisingly, the number of Byzantine posts, is the 4th highest of the coin sub-forums, behind only Roman Empire, Greek, and World Coins. And ahead of the Roman Republic. And ahead of Medieval. Perhaps it has something to do, with @Severus Alexander's massive thread "The epic Byzantine portrait thread". I hope @Severus Alexander is doing okay. One thing, that I think is interesting about Byzantine coins, is the decay. That is, how the style of the Byzantine coins, seemed to decay, relative to the ancient Greek coins, and the ancient Roman coins. The ancient Roman coins decayed, and the Byzantine coins continued the decay. And, I think it's interesting, how the Byzantine coins became stranger and stranger, and less Roman in appearance, as the centuries passed by. Here's my Justinian II coin. Justinian II coins are somewhat scarce, and the demand is relatively high for this interesting Emperor, therefore the coins are somewhat pricey, usually. Especially the 40 nummi coins. Justinian II The Slit Nosed. 1st Reign. AE 40 Nummi Follis. Minted 685 AD To 695 AD. Syracuse Mint. Sear 1295. DO 54. Maximum Diameter 21.7 mm. Weight 4.09 grams. Obverse : Justinian II Bust Facing Front, With Short Beard, Wearing Crown, Cross On Top Of Crown, Holding Globus Cruciger In Right Hand. Reverse : Large M, Monogram Above, "SCL" Mint Below. Overstruck On Earlier Coin Possibly Constantine IV Syracuse Follis Sear 1211 DO 64.

I like that. As a buyer, I would even like to see, a photo of the front of the entire slab, and a photo of the back of the entire slab.

That's a good point. I agree, that it is difficult, to take good photos, of a coin in a slab. However, some sellers seem to take okay photos, of coins within slabs. I would prefer, for a seller to at least try to take zoomed in photos, of a coin within a slab, and feature the photos which are clipped to show only the coin. Especially, when I'm browsing through a gallery view of many coins, it's difficult to even see a coin, to decide if I want to look more closely at the listing of the coin, if the featured photo shows the entire slab, because the actual coin looks so small, in such a photo. Here are some examples, which I found, of sellers, who feature okay photos, of a coin within a slab, which are zoomed in on the coin, and which are clipped to show only the coin. THESE ARE NOT MY COINS.

@Valentinian Yes, I agree, that it is an inconvenience, and it creates more work for me as a buyer or bidder, to view a coin, when a dealer features a photo of the entire slab, rather than a photo clipped to show only the coin. I've seen this, on multiple sites, for both fixed price sales, and for auctions. If the sales/auction site only allows 2 photos, then I could imagine, why a seller or auction house would have photos of the entire slab, because I would want to look at the entire slab, before I bought or bid. But, if the sales/auction site allows at least 4 photos, then it seems like, the seller or auction house would feature photos of the coin, clipped to show only the coin. As you say, it's almost as if, the slab is more important than the coin. Or, perhaps the seller or auction house didn't want to take the time, to clip the photos. Also, it seems like, a sales or auction house, would always allow at least 4 photos. 2 clipped photos for both sides of the coin, and 2 photos for both sides of the entire slab. If I remember correctly, Vcoins allows at least 4 photos. But, some sales or auction sites, seem to allow only 2 photos, for some reason. All of what I just said, is just what I remember, from looking at various sales and auction sites. But, my memory could be incorrect.

Hello @Amanda. I advise, starting a new thread, for the Queen Elizabeth II coin.

My Alexander The Great posthumous tetradrachm has some rainbow toning, on the obverse. Alexander III The Great. Posthumous Issue. AR Tetradrachm. Minted 280 BC to 200 BC. Odessos Mint. Price 1163. Maximum Diameter 28.0 mm. Weight 16.74 grams. Obverse : Heracles In Lion Skin. Reverse : Zeus On Throne. Minted in Odessos, which is now called "Varna" in Bulgaria, on the western coast of the Black Sea.

Hello @Amanda. Welcome to Nvmis Forvms.

As a collector of ancients, medievals, and moderns, I find the OP post very funny. Perhaps because I collect all 3 of the above categories, I differ from the modern collector stereotype, somewhat. I don't care about error coins. None of my coins are in slabs. I don't care about the "grade" of a coin. I won't pay a ridiculous price, for a coin that is MS-63 versus MS-62, or MS-63 star plus plus (or whatever they call it) versus MS-63. And, I touch all of my coins with my hands, except for 1 silver uncirculated set, and 1 silver proof set. However, if a coin is shiny, then I try to hold the coin by the edges. On the other hand, I have a few things in common, with the modern collector stereotype. I have 1 series, which is all Lincoln cents from 1909 through 2009 except for a few oddities and errors. That's my only series. Many moderns collectors seem to like series. I keep my Lincolns, in pretty blue Whitman albums with sliding transparent covers, so I can see the obverse and reverse of each coin. Many moderns collectors seem to like albums. And, I try to get the nicest looking coins, that I can. Although, that can be said, about many ancients collectors also.

Hello @José. Welcome to Nvmis Forvms. To me, the coin looks Chinese, or Japanese, or Korean, or Vietnamese. It's probably a cast coin, not a struck coin. It has an inscription on both sides, therefore it seems to be a later coin, perhaps after 1500 AD.

Happy Easter! Here's a Byzantine coin, from my collection. Basil II Or Constantine VIII. AE 40 Nummi Follis. Minted 976 AD To 1028 AD. Constantinople Mint. Class A3. Sear 1818. Maximum Diameter 28.7 mm. Weight 9.27 grams. Obverse : Jesus Christ With "EMMA" On Left Edge, "NOVHL" On Right Edge, EMMANOVHL Is Latinized Hebrew For "Emmanuel" Meaning "God With Us", "IC XC" On Left And Right, Abbreviation For "IHSUS XRISTUS" Greek For "Jesus Christ". Reverse : "IHSUS XRISTUS BASILEU BASILE" Greek For "Jesus Christ King Of Kings".

Hello @VanillaBean. Welcome to Nvmis Forvms. The thin coin, looks like a Spanish coin, perhaps as early as the late middle ages (1300 AD to 1499 AD), or maybe later. Perhaps the Spanish kingdom of Castile & Leon (castle and lion). As @theotokevoithi said, the thick coin, could be a bronze Spanish coin minted after 1500 AD. Perhaps a 3 maravedis coin (III) coin, or an 8 maravedis coin (VIII). That may be the date on 1 side, perhaps "70" or "76" for 170X or 176X, therefore perhaps sometime in the 1700s. That may be a "III" on the other side, for either 3 maravedis (III) or part of 8 maravedis (VIII).

Hello @mrichter830. Welcome to Nvmis Forvms. It's always nice to see coins, which were inherited, and which have sentimental value. It makes one wonder, where your grandmother got the coin.

Wow. I'm not familiar with the above coin type. Because of the greenish color, and the seeming thickness of the tone/patina, it looks like a bronze coin, like an as, or dupondius, or sestertius, to me. Here are seller photos, of my darkest, most toned silver coin, a silver denarius of Trajan. It's basically black, because of the tone. The seller photos aren't very good. The coin looks better, in hand. Trajan. AR Denarius. Minted 108 AD To 109 AD. Rome Mint. RIC 119. Maximum Diameter 19 mm. Weight 2.86 grams. Obverse : Trajan Bust Facing Right. Reverse : Aequitas Seated Holding Scales And Cornucopia.